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Religious Exemption - Cant do Selective Vax?

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8,826 words with 23 Comments; publish: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:46:00 GMT; (900109.38, « »)

I live in CT. I'm pretty sure we will stop vaxing completely and not vax this new baby... my children go to public schools and in CT my only option is a religious exemption. However, there are one or two vaxes I'm still debating... is it true that I can do only ALL or NOTHING because of the religious exemption thing?

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    • It depends on the state. I've come across 1 state so far (can't recall which) offering only a religious exemption where you can pick and choose and there's probably one or two more.

      Do you need a link to the CT DOH exemption form?

      #1; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:02:00 GMT
    • I haven't seen much said about this, but I assume that if you claim religious exemption, you can't selective vax. Religious exemption usually says something along the lines of "I believe the body can heal itself, and I don't believe in injecting foreign substances" (just to paraphrase), and I'm not sure how to get around that for one or two vaxes.
      #2; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:03:00 GMT
    • I'm pretty sure if you claim religion it's all or nothing. Everything I've read says that. Like it won't make much sense if you say "My religion opposes the MMR and the Chicken Pox vaccine. But we're cool with Polio and HIB." Kwim?
      #3; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:04:00 GMT
    • well im sure if you brought up specific ingrediants that caused your opposition to them, eg aborted fetal cells or monkey cells since those ingrediants arn't in all vaccines.
      #4; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:05:00 GMT
    • Okay then so here's my question - if I tell my doctor I'm doing selective vax but send in a religious exemption form when my child starts school - will it matter? I mean does this mean that if I selective vax I cant send my child to public schools? And that if I want to send them there I have to no-vax completely?
      #5; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:06:00 GMT
    • I don't belive that would be a problem, it would be a similar situation to me and other moms who stopped part way through their vaccination schedule.
      #6; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:07:00 GMT
    • My oldest child is partially vaxed and I just left the entire vax section of the school form blank and checked the religious exemption box. If CT is anything like OR, your doc is not going to be sending the vax info to the school, it's up to you to document.

      So, no, you can't technically fill in some of the vax section and get out of doing the rest by claiming religious exemptions. But you can certainly vax your kid selectively if that's your choice, leave the form blank, and check the religious exemption box.

      #7; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:08:00 GMT
    • I don't know if that's the case for all schools.

      I'm enrolling DS in a preschool of sorts, and they have a form that has to be completed by the physician. It includes a vaccination section. So if the school here were to require the same thing, I wouldn't be able to get away with selective vax and claiming religious exemption. I have thought about the possibility of having some vax done at one of those state (or is it county) clinics - then my doctor would have no record of it. I'm a little paranoid though...so for now, I'm not getting any vax.

      #8; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:09:00 GMT
    • Here in CT we have to provide the school with a yellow state form from the doctor which also includes vax information. But what if I dont want to go to a regular pediatrician? I mean if I dont vax, I will rarely be visiting the ped... do I still have to go in and get this form done?

      UGH

      #9; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:10:00 GMT
    • Eileen, I am in CT (and on the TCC list with you) You can use a philosophical exemption in this state not just religious. My kids go to public school and all I had to do was get a form from the school nurse that says we are exempt blah blah blah. I dont remember the exact wording. I didnt have to get a Dr or anyone else to sign it.

      Don't let the nurses or school admin bully you into thinking you HAVE to do xyz, you don't. They have the form for you to sign and that should be the end of it. Who told you they only allow religious exemption and that you had to have a yellow state form from the DR?

      #10; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:11:00 GMT
    • Hi, Jennie!!!

      What list are you on with me??

      Where in CT do you live - I would LOVE to meet other moms near me who are like-minded.

      On another post someone gave me a link to CT regs and I thought for sure it said we only had a religious exemption, not philosophical... do you have any links for me?

      Also, I just assumed I had to hand that yellow slip in that they gave me... I get it and the nurse hounds me for it each year. What should I be asking her for instead?

      Thanks so much for the help!

      xoxo

      #11; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:12:00 GMT
    • Eileen, I am in CT (and on the TCC list with you) You can use a philosophical exemption in this state not just religious.

      There is no philosophical exemption in CT. There's a preprinted DOH religious exemption form.

      http://www.dph.state.ct.us/BCH/infectiousdise/pdf/Religious_Exemption_Form.pdf

      #12; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:13:00 GMT
    • Eileen I am in Groton and we are on The Crunchy Crew list together ;)

      I was wrong there is medical and religious exemption http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

      The form I get is just a white sheet of paper basically saying we do not vax, if I could find my copy I could post what it says but I am totally unorganized and can't find it. I only have to file an exemption form for each new student enrolling, so once they have the exemption form I don't have to renew it each year. each school district may run differently.

      #13; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:14:00 GMT
    • I would just return the yellow sheet blank and the religious expemption form every time. And if she keeps trying to hound you about it, tell her thats harrasment.
      #14; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:15:00 GMT
    • Here in CT we have to provide the school with a yellow state form from the doctor which also includes vax information. But what if I dont want to go to a regular pediatrician? I mean if I dont vax, I will rarely be visiting the ped... do I still have to go in and get this form done?

      UGH

      You can put an "x" through the immunization section of the medical form, along with the words "Religious Exemption" so that the doc's staff doesn't fill it in.

      #15; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:17:00 GMT
    • The form I get is just a white sheet of paper basically saying we do not vax, if I could find my copy I could post what it says

      I just did an "ETA" in my previous post linking the CT DOH religious exemption form.

      #16; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:17:00 GMT
    • So, no, you can't technically fill in some of the vax section and get out of doing the rest by claiming religious exemptions. But you can certainly vax your kid selectively if that's your choice, leave the form blank, and check the religious exemption box.

      You can submit an exemption with prior vaccination history - it wouldn't invalidate an exemption in any state, but I think it's best to leave prior vax history off any medical forms if you're enrolling for the first time.

      #17; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:19:00 GMT
    • I wonder what I should do then. My second dd is starting kindergarten in the fall - shes up to date as of now but I think I will stop vaxing at this point so next year she may be off. I can wait until then to send in the religious exempt form and send in her vax history form.. or maybe I should just send it in now with no vax history.
      #18; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:20:00 GMT
    • you dont have to disclose her prior history, just send the exemption.
      #19; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:21:00 GMT
    • Does anyone know if there are any options such as the one available for CT in Florida? I'm wondering if it's ALL or NOTHING in Florida as well.
      #20; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:22:00 GMT
    • FL is the same, medical and religious. The link in my previous post shows which states allow which exemptions :)
      #21; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:23:00 GMT
    • I'm pretty sure if you claim religion it's all or nothing. Everything I've read says that. Like it won't make much sense if you say "My religion opposes the MMR and the Chicken Pox vaccine. But we're cool with Polio and HIB." Kwim?

      This depends on the state.

      Some states which have philosophical or conscientious exemptions are broad and include religious beliefs under the philosophical/conscientious exemption . . . so you are able to pick and choose in these states . . . if the state allows you to pick and choose with the philo exemption. Some do not.

      Regardless, you can use an exemption and selectively/delay vaccination privately.

      #22; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:24:00 GMT
    • I don't know if that's the case for all schools.

      I'm enrolling DS in a preschool of sorts, and they have a form that has to be completed by the physician. It includes a vaccination section. So if the school here were to require the same thing, I wouldn't be able to get away with selective vax and claiming religious exemption. I have thought about the possibility of having some vax done at one of those state (or is it county) clinics - then my doctor would have no record of it. I'm a little paranoid though...so for now, I'm not getting any vax.

      You put a big line through that section and write "religous exemption" across it so that your doctor doesn't fill that part in.

      #23; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:25:00 GMT